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Zach Kienbaum: 2024 World FITASC Champion
In this episode, I talk with Zach Kienbaum, fresh off his victory at the 2024 World FITASC Championship. We talk about his well-deserved break in Alaska, where he enjoyed some fishing before gearing up for the US Open. Zach shares his plans for the remainder of the 2024 shooting season and what tournaments he will be attending. We also discuss what’s on the horizon for 2025, including some of the major events with big payouts.
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Speaker 2:Today we have the newly crowned 2024 World FETAS Champion on with us. He has consistently proven himself as one of the top shooters in the world, and his recent win at the World FETAS Championship is just a notch on his belt, with many more to come. Please welcome to the show, zach Kingbaum. Zach, what's up? How's it going, justin? Good, good, you've been up in Alaska.
Speaker 3:I've been on vacation.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that what you call that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, no guns. We flew up here with fishing waders no guns, which is awesome.
Speaker 2:You have no guns with you at all. Where are they at? No guns, buzzy have them.
Speaker 3:No, we left them in Chicago. So after the World Fee Task, I had lessons for a full week at northbrook in chicago, um, for one week, and then we flew up here to alaska for two weeks and we're heading home tonight so, uh, desi's parents live in alaska, yeah, so what have you been doing in alaska?
Speaker 2:how's the weather and all that stuff?
Speaker 3:uh, it's starting to rain right now. Desi's parents live here. We have other friends here as well. We brought Rodney Disbrow with us up this summer so he's been hanging out with us. But we spent four days up at Ed Gore. A lot of shooters know Ed. He's a shooter. He's got a cabin up near denali national park. Yeah, so we take his flat bottom jet boat and go play and try to find fish. And then after that we spent about five days at her family's uh cabin on big lake kind of a recreational lake there outside of wasilla. And then the last four days we've been down on the Kenai and in Seward catching a lot of fish, a lot of fish.
Speaker 2:What are those fish you were catching? I couldn't tell.
Speaker 3:In the Kenai. You're catching we're catching sockeye salmon. That's a big salmon run. We hit it. The two days we were down there they had 154,000 come through the counter and then the next day 190,000 fish. So it was red hot. You're taking those boats up and down the down the river and just both sides of the bank people hooked up just dragging in fish. I've never seen it. This is I think I've been coming down here for 15 or up here for 15 years and that is the absolute hottest I've ever seen the sockeye run in Kenai. It was awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is that what you were cleaning? They were cleaning the fish on video. You posted yeah, and it looked good.
Speaker 3:Oh, it was awesome. They're chrome, bright chrome. They're only a couple miles out of the ocean and we're catching them. It was awesome. I had my limit. I don't even know what time we actually started fishing, but we met the guide at 545 in the morning at the boat ramp and I had a limit of sockeye at 645.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's crazy. So what's the weather? You said it was raining. What's the weather been like up there?
Speaker 3:Oh, low, 60s, 60, 65.
Speaker 2:So not like Savannah.
Speaker 3:Not like Savannah, I have not sweated in two weeks.
Speaker 2:That's a lie.
Speaker 3:But we all, you know generally a lot of years, you know the world feed task is normally in July and we will, you know generally a lot of years, you know the world feed task is normally in July and we will, uh, obviously been hitting it hard from the spring through early summer and this time of year we we normally try to take two or three weeks and not touch the guns and just relax.
Speaker 2:You know some people probably would disagree with that going to the U S open. You know what I mean. I know you can't disagree with you. I know, yeah, you can't disagree with you. But I'm just saying that they've probably been hitting it hard and you're sitting here fishing, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not a big practice guy. I never really have been. I've just been doing it forever. So I I promise you a prelim and a super sport, or whatever. I shoot first, that's perfect. Warm up, so I'll be ready, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. So how talk about the year that I hadn't been out much? This year I've been, I've been busy and, um, uh, you know, I think the last shoot that I went to was in Savannah at the regional, and that's about it. What's what? How's your year been going and what you you been doing up to World Fee Task.
Speaker 3:I've shot fairly well this year Early on in the year. Obviously Brandon's been winning a lot. I think Gavin Miles has had an outstanding year. Some of the smaller fee task events and stuff that we've gone to and other events Texas State Gavin's been shooting as well as anybody for a lot of the season and then I mean Brandon's been getting a lot of the hype because he's been winning as well. Anthony Mattery's had a great year. He's already won a regional and obviously second at the world fee task. I've shot steady. I didn't shoot very well last year Not for me, not as well as I have and, to be honest with you, I got a CPAP machine.
Speaker 2:Ooh, love them.
Speaker 3:Late last year and took me a long time to get used to it. But this year, as I've gotten used to that, obviously I probably just need to lose some weight and that would fix a lot of it. But that CPAP has really brought my shooting back to where it was a few years ago, so that was definitely the right move. I should have done it sooner?
Speaker 2:Is it because you're sleeping better? You think?
Speaker 3:It's 100% sleep. Yeah, once I got the first time I put that machine on. I breathe in. I'm like, oh my god, I almost think everyone's probably a little oxygen deprived.
Speaker 2:Isn't it crazy?
Speaker 3:It's crazy and it started affecting my motor skills. It started affecting my coordination. I was last year. I've I've told several people if it's if the event, if I was shooting the event after noon, after 12 o'clock, I would shoot. Okay, if it was before noon or 8 AM would be terrible. Um, I've shot really bad for me last year. Um, so once it, you know, I was already feeling bad. I'd probably been feeling bad for a year and a half, two years, but once it started affecting my scores, that's when I'd had enough.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But really I should have been doing it before that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's for someone that needs it. I'm assuming, like you do and like I do, I can. I know that when I went down to the regional Savannah I left it here and I called my wife. I called my wife. I said you're going to overnight it to me. I don't care what it costs, send it to me. And the next day it was there. It's just. It don't help my shooting any, but it's still it helps your uh day to day. For sure I remember.
Speaker 3:David, David or Dulovich, this is shoot man. This is five, six years ago. He had got one. He may be off it now Cause he's lost. He's lost some weight. Yeah, I don't know if he's still using it, but I can remember him telling me five or six years ago that it was the best thing he ever did for his shooting was to get that CPAP. I'm not I haven't asked him whether he's using it still or not but he's definitely skinnier than he was back then.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Um, that's a good question I'm going to ask him this week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you gotta get you to travel. Size man, the small one.
Speaker 3:You can carry it. I have the air mini there. Many I put it in my backpack. It's tiny, I go everywhere with it.
Speaker 2:I told somebody the other day. I said you could take mine. If mine comes off my face in the middle of the night, you could take it, go blow the driveway off with it. I'm telling you. Right Strong. So War of Fee Task was. I mean, you've been working at it. Second, what? How many times Twice?
Speaker 3:I've been second twice. You know, listening to some other stuff that came out after that, I and I was just thinking to myself like this is the sixth time that I've been in the top five at the world fee test, so I'm not a newcomer to that stage. I've done very well, um, especially overseas. I've done very well at that shoot, but I just never got over the over that hump. Going into the event, I was not expecting a dang thing. To be honest. I just I had a. Really I shot. I've been shooting well and I had an excellent, excellent practice.
Speaker 3:On Monday we had gone to Northbrook and shot the North American fee task and then on Monday morning, before we headed up to Wisconsin, we shot all eight parkours again and I shot really, really well and I just I was just confident in my shooting. Going into it I wasn't expecting anything and I didn't put a lot of pressure on myself and I just went out there and by Saturday afternoon I kind of find myself in the driver's seat and it was. It was pretty cool. By Saturday afternoon I kind of find myself in the driver's seat and it was pretty cool. Just thinking about the people that have won that shoot, I mean it's pretty surreal. Right to add my name to that list. It's incredible.
Speaker 1:It's incredible.
Speaker 3:I was thinking about people that I consider some of the best shooters ever have not won that shoot. It's just pretty special kind of a dream come true. That's the shoot. I've always looked at two events as the most important for me in my mind and that's the NSCA Nationals and the World Fee Task, both four-day events, just extremely difficult to win. Sporting clays is really largely shot in the United States and England, whereas fee task is you say the word sporting clays anywhere in the world, they think you're talking about fee task and that is the game in my. In my mind that is the the hardest, uh, most difficult, just gun handling shotgun game there is.
Speaker 2:Yeah you know, you go back and look at who was there.
Speaker 3:I mean it was, I mean everyone was there, I mean from I've always, I've always wanted to win one in Europe, you know, yeah, but there is no question, this shoot, that Game, unlimited just held it was the most attended by the foreign shooters, by the Europeans and people from all over the world. It really felt a lot like some of those events we travel abroad to, and they couldn't have done a better job. It was incredible. Yeah, the targets weren't as great. You didn't have the. You know, last year we shot. We shot off some cliffs in a in an old mine in in hungary, so you had some extreme birds there, but this was tough. These were, these were awesome.
Speaker 3:Jamie Peckham set an incredible 200 bird tournament and some of the spots. I don't know if you've had a chance to see some of the photos or videos that different people have posted, but some of the most picturesque pegs, um, you know, I think back on years past, other world feed tasks, and there's always two or three pegs from the good ones that you were you'll remember forever, and there's definitely two or three from, uh, from wisconsin. That will everyone will remember forever. It was an incredible shoot, uh, pete and the guys. They did an awesome job yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:uh, it was neat to watch. It was neat to see everyone that attended that shoot. And then it was. You know, it was cool to watch, it was neat to see everyone that attended that shoot, and then it was cool to see that you finally won one, right? I mean, I can remember you telling me a couple years ago that that's the one you wanted to win. I think you finished second the year that I asked you that question.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the last time you finished second. I finished second the same year that I won nationals for the first time yeah 2018 and I was second, and also that was in france in 2018.
Speaker 3:And then I was. I was runner up as well in uh 2014 in portugal. Um, I've had different scenarios. In portugal, I kind of came I had a bad th bad first day, climbed out of it, did pretty well, had a chance to win. In 2018 in France, when I was silver as well, I kind of jumped. I shot 50 straight on the first day and I led the event all the way to the last second. On Sunday I got another silver. So I kind of I've had a couple of people remind me or send me screenshots I in 2018, when I posted about that event, I, I I don't know what I was thinking, but I promised that I would win this shoot one day and I hadn't really thought about that until several people texted it to me after. It was kind of funny.
Speaker 2:So what's the next one you're going to win? You're on a roll here. What's? I mean? I know you won't win them all, but what's? What's the next big one that you want?
Speaker 3:I U S open. I'd really like to. I'd probably like to win a U S open as much or more than a uh world English know why I mean. There's four, you know Nationals, us Open, world Sporting, world, fee Task. I got two of those. We'll keep plugging away. We'll try to add a few more.
Speaker 2:So you're headed to or you're leaving Alaska. Are you going home? You're not going home.
Speaker 3:first, You're going straight to Chicago, to Northbrook.
Speaker 2:So you're going to get ready to win this one in our home away from home. Yeah, yeah, we'll see all right I'm always shot fairly well there let me ask you this anthony's shooting the new sl2 beretta yep you're still shooting dt11. Do you have any? Do you have any? What do you think about that gun? Do you have any plans to go to that gun yourself?
Speaker 3:I, you know the gun itself is incredible there, I mean it is. It is a awesome gun and they've even changed a little more on that, that steelium pro barrel. They changed some of the dimensions in there. Um, I bet that new gun patterns probably slightly better. But yeah, there's not another production barrel in the industry that patterns better than a DT11, maybe the SL2 now, um, I, the SL2 is incredible, but the damn DT11, I've been shooting that gun. This is in July this month. This is 10 years I've got that. I got that gun in July of 2014 and, to be honest, it's the same gun. I've shoot the same stock, the same gun, since 2014.
Speaker 2:So, same barrels.
Speaker 3:No second set of barrels. I busted a rib on one.
Speaker 2:That's right. That's right you did. I remember that yeah.
Speaker 3:That that that last nationals I won. Rich coal was literally rewelding my rib on every evening to get me through the shoot and the last shell I fired was winning the nationals. Uh, we, Stefano from Beretta, fitted a new barrel to it that after that evening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3:And that's so. Second set of barrels.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's still impressive.
Speaker 3:The gun is nowhere near the end of its lifestyle life, I promise you. But it's like putting on a old pair of jeans. It's like it's part of me now. I just muscle memory, all of the above, just it moves for me. I know how to move it, it points, I know how it shoots. It's just I think I'd be kind of crazy to change. What do you think?
Speaker 2:well, I mean, you'd say the same thing about anthony too. I mean, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I mean well, no see, anthony's not quite as long in the dp yeah well, maybe now, I don't know when, when I don't know. Remember when he went to shoot a little trap?
Speaker 2:um, well, the way I look, the way I look at it, zach is, beretta is innovating new things and you're still shooting the old thing. So that's why I asked that question. I mean, they're cool-looking guns. I just didn't know. If, you know, now that you have won a world championship they might give you something. So I figured that they would just maybe give you an SL2.
Speaker 3:Oh, they already asked me.
Speaker 2:I'm sure.
Speaker 3:I'm getting another DT11. There you go Someday. You know I'll get one, just to have one. I have the prototype.
Speaker 3:They built me the prototype to the SL2 five or six years ago, so I had a hand in a small hand in the development and you know I had to send them my reports and what I would like to see and stuff like that. Um, so it's a gun I know a lot about. I just it's a great gun, but that's not to say that the DT11 is a bad gun by any means. You go to any shoot. I mean a lot of dt11s picking up a lot of trophies every sunday and you know you've got the dt11, just the standard dt11, nothing fancy the original.
Speaker 3:Now I got a nice piece of a nice stock on it by greenwood right, yeah, no, I'm talking about the receiver but yeah, it's just the plain nickel, the original, the original first dt11 that ever came out.
Speaker 2:That's the version I shoot well, that's cool, that's a good story that you've had it that long. I don't know you had it that long, yeah, yeah, so, um, so, going into the us open a couple weeks off, I'm sure you're refreshed feeling and, uh, looking forward to it. I hadn't been, I hadn't been to a shoot in a long time. I'm gonna be at this one and and I hope to see everybody up there. I know it's, you know it's Northbrook. I'll probably get pissed going up there shooting the targets, but it's okay, I'm taking my son, so that's all that matters to me.
Speaker 3:Oh, it'll be awesome that place. It's my favorite. We do a lot of coaching there, but I think in the next 10 years we'll probably do even more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a great place, man. I mean just the grass. Always talk about the grass when you talk about grass and Savannah, but the grass when you pull in this place is super, super nice. I mean, it's like a golf course out there. I heard somebody say the other day that this, that they could. You know, if you wanted to compare it to a golf course, they would compare it to Augusta National. You know this place as far as the way, the grounds, look, they're really nice If they've had.
Speaker 3:So they've had a lot of rain a lot of rain this year If it and it's. I hadn't checked in about 10 days, but I think it was supposed to dry out a little bit. If it dries out enough for them to get their mowers in there the If it dries out enough for them to get their mowers in there, the place could look fantastic. But they are at the mercy of some Mother Nature at times. Yeah, but it looked beautiful when I left, so I wouldn't expect any different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is it true that Brett's got a collection of snakes? Or is he pulling my leg when I talk to him?
Speaker 3:He's a yeah, he's a snake breeder and like not a few.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I need to go see that.
Speaker 3:You, yeah you'll, you'll get a chance to see it. You need to see it. It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my cup of tea, but you won't go with me.
Speaker 3:I'll go over there with you.
Speaker 2:Don't ask me to touch one, you're scared of a snake.
Speaker 3:Yes, no question.
Speaker 2:So if we get one out and put it in your bag, it'd be a problem.
Speaker 3:Do not do that. He won't do it because they're worth too much money.
Speaker 2:He makes good money selling those things. Well, I might come up with something That'd be funny. That'd be funny. So, um, after the us open, we got nationals coming up. You know, I think that's probably your next big one, right, isn't that? Isn't that?
Speaker 3:it? No, we've got a bunch of stuff in between what's in between that you're going to?
Speaker 3:so we're. We're at the. We're towards the end of a six-week road trip right now. That included those two fee test shoots, alaska and now the open. We'll go home for just under two weeks and then we get in the car. This will be a road trip. We will drive to Hopkins for the Northeast Regional shoot that, get in the car literally Monday morning and we're hightailing it straight out west to Montana. So we're going to drive from Maryland to Montana yeah, that's crazy, good Lord. And then we'll be in Montana for about 10 days.
Speaker 3:We shoot the shoot there in Gallatin, the Western Challenge. Then we go visit our friends the Arrowwoods up there with the Phineasies up in the Swan Valley, and then I'll make my way down to Casper, wyoming. We'll hunt the beginning of the dove season, chase some pigeons and some doves around Wyoming for three days, and then we'll head down to Fort Worth to Travis's place for the South Central Regional Defender, and then we've got about 10 days. We've got some plans to go out to West Texas chase some more pigeons and doves. We've got three days of early teal season booked around near Houston and then we'll shoot the Diamond Classic at Greater Houston Gun Club. So I got plenty of shoots, that's all. So that's four shoots, three fairly big ones, uh, before nationals.
Speaker 2:If you had to back up 25 years ago, do you think? Would you think you would be doing what you're doing now?
Speaker 3:25 years ago 2000.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're younger than.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying kind of to be honest with you really. I sort of, I mean, even before I was coaching full-time, it was on my mind um that I had that opportunity to go do that. I knew I would enjoy it, um, to shoot and coach full time. Um, let's see what swing 24, 99, 2000. Yeah, I mean I was, I was shooting pretty damn well. At that time I was already, I'd already podi, I was already podiumed the HOA podium at nationals in the U S open by then, um, and I hadn't won one yet. But uh, well, I think I kind of knew what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm just saying that because it's it's pretty. It's pretty cool at what you're doing. You're riding around doing what you do for a living and in the meat, you know, on the way there, you've always got a place to stop.
Speaker 3:There is no question how blessed we are. We're not um, we make good money but we don't. We're not rich. But I would tell you is we're rich in experiences. We're rich in our ability to go see things, do things um that not a lot of people have the time to do.
Speaker 2:Right, for sure. I mean it's. It's crazy that the cool things that you and Desi get to do and the people that you've met I mean pro baseball players and whoever I mean it's just it's really cool to to hear and see what you, what y'all, do when your time off or when you're going from spot to spot you know Right, I'll tell you something that's that's. I've noticed there's a lot of big shoots for the for next year is rolling up, there's some big shoots and there's some big payouts yes that the it's things are changing for the better.
Speaker 3:No, there's no question. The sport is growing. Anyone that doesn't think so isn't paying attention. Yeah, um, there are some big payout shoots, some, some cool stuff coming down the pipe. That that's just exciting. I mean not not just for me, just the sport in general.
Speaker 2:Yep, I mean, you know I'll give uh, I'll give the Meadows a little plug here that that shooters championship they're doing with uh. You know, kevin and Bill, I think Bill's with them in that, isn't he, or is he not Maybe? Okay, I mean that's great. What, what, what? I mean that's great what they're doing there and you know, jack Link's getting as big as they are and all of those shoots for next year. I think that Shooter's Championship's next year, isn't it at the Meadows?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think next May or something, I mean I think they've got probably 800 registered people already. They've got a lot. Yeah, they've got a lot. If you're the pro shooters, it's kind of the same type of payout as some of the major shoots already. But if you're not a master class shooter and you're not there, you're crazy.
Speaker 2:I'm taking Bryce. That's why I take him with me, so he can win the money and I can just go watch. There you go. Yeah, I mean for every class. I don't care if you're in E class or not in E class next year with me.
Speaker 3:So so he can win the money and I could just go watch. You know, there you go. Yeah, I mean for every class. I don't care if you're in e-class or it's not an e-class next year but d-class, c-class, whatever. Everyone's got a chance and it's.
Speaker 2:That's pretty cool to see yeah, yeah, there's a lot of good stuff happening, a lot of big things in the, in the sport that's happening and been happening, and I think it's going in the right direction, man, man, I mean it's you know, you know the kids, the kid, the kids, you know, I got a, I got a meeting tomorrow night with uh, the, the school team here, and the amount of kids that are coming out this year that hadn't been coming out is is pretty crazy for our school, you know it's. It's like they're seeing that, that it's that it's uh, I guess the parents have something to do with that as well. They're seeing that it's a good sport to be involved with and the people that you meet and are involved with in this sport is it's just crazy to see it grow like it is. I'm kind of excited about it and that's what I've been focused on more than anything. Is the kids Just like going to the US.
Speaker 2:I'm going for for Bryce. I'm not going because I really want to go, but I do, but I don't, you know. So as long as he's having a good time and he's learning and experiencing things, that's what matters to me.
Speaker 3:So oh yeah, he's going to love it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he can't wait to get on an airplane it, it don't matter. You remember when you were you were a kid, maybe you weren't like this, but I was and we were going on vacation. I could not wait to get to the hotel. I couldn't wait.
Speaker 3:The hotel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, yeah, oh, I'm ready. I want to sleep in a different place. And he's the same way. It's funny. Hey, where? Way, it's funny. Hey, where are we staying at? You know what we're flying? Yeah, okay, how big is the airport? Is it like a mall?
Speaker 2:no, it's like an airport, so anyway he's gonna love it oh yeah, so tell me about I've wondered this past couple of days I thought about it what you've got a a huge collection of shooting glasses now have you found something else other than those 18s that you like to shoot with? Are you still just shooting with 18s?
Speaker 3:justin, I got. So I like the the ends, the purple stuff, right, yeah, and he got that. They did the that new 12 blueberry, that real purple one. I've worn that. I was wearing that in Georgia, georgia State, when it's really green.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But I just always gravitate back to that 18 CED and I know I'm not the only one when I see some of the top shooters shoot and I just glance over there. There are so many great shooters that have just they have, I mean I. There's nothing better than that lens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you keep. You've got every one of them, probably, but you keep going back a lot.
Speaker 3:Uh, dennis is. Yeah, dennis has been great. Phillip and Dennis, I've got a lot of them. I just always gravitate. I'll wear that lens in darker scenarios than people might think. I just get the most contrast. It gives me the most. I have brown eyes. It's that ED, that amber color. It's not that different than even some of the old, the old high def specs ED colors. You know those were, those were my favorites back in the day as well. Um, but that chroma shift brown 18 is where it's at for you.
Speaker 3:And I'm not the only one, I promise you there's some great shooters that that kind of use, that that lens, religious lens religiously.
Speaker 2:You got any duck hunts or anything lined up for the.
Speaker 3:Oh, I got a lot, yeah, plenty.
Speaker 2:You got the goose hunt.
Speaker 3:We'll do kind of similar to last year. Some Texas early teal. I got three trips out to Washington and two trips out to Wyoming. I like going west.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but where did you shoot all those ducks last year? Did you go to?
Speaker 3:Is that Washington Wyoming and Washington?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you told me that that was the place to be for sure. Alright, zach, thanks for coming on. Congratulations in your In your world feed task win. Look forward to seeing you at the US Open and seeing what you do in there. Zach, thanks for coming on. Congratulations on your World Fee Task win. Look forward to seeing you at the US Open and seeing what you're doing there.
Speaker 3:Look forward to seeing you Travel safe. Yeah, man. Outro Music.
